So Your DNA Results are ‘Wrong’

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In the light of the recent ethnicity updates from Living DNA, the perceived accuracy of these estimates has again been the subject of heated debate. Personally, regarding the Living DNA update, I am very pleased with the strong correlation between the documentary trees and the ethnicity estimates of the three kits that I am involved with. This may be because we all have, as far as we know, 100% British ancestry within the genealogical time-frame. Inevitably, amidst the excitement and praise, the updates have brought out plenty of ‘my results are wrong, this company is rubbish’ comments. Indeed, I too have looked at the ‘accuracy’ of the estimates (and used the word rubbish about previous results – although I did qualify it!).

I am a long way from being any kind of DNA expert but many of the main complainants seem to be missing a number of points. Firstly, these are estimates, it is an emerging science, we are a long way away from ethnicity profiles being a complete reflection of our ancestral origins. They will become more accurate over time but the results are currently only as accurate as the base populations from which they are derived. They are more accurate for some areas than others. In Living DNA’s case, it seems that those with British ancestry are more likely to find that their results are a better reflection of the documentary evidence, than those whose families originate elsewhere.

The crucial issue here is how we are measuring ‘accuracy’? Are we looking at where our grandparents were born? Our great grandparents? Their parents? In a British context, having talked to a number of family historians, it seems that you have to go back to those born about 1770-1800 (for me that is 3 x great-grandparents) before you stop adding additional birth counties (N.B. that is counties not countries) to your make-up. Here is an example:- My parents were born in two adjacent counties, Surrey and Middlesex. This does not reflect my earlier origins very well. If I go back to my grandparents, they were born in Surrey, Middlesex (x 2) and Cornwall, so I have added a county. Great grandparents adds Northumberland, Essex and Buckinghamshire to the mix of birthplaces. The next generation adds Sussex and Norfolk. The birthplaces of my 3 x great grandparents looks like the map below and beyond that only those counties illustrated feature. If I were able to go back beyond the genealogical time-frame (earlier than 1500) my deeper ancestry will be more diverse. Anyone with a British family trees will ultimately descend from those with origins in Europe (Saxons, Normans, Vikings, etc.) and beyond but it is unlikely that these individuals will ever appear on our documentary family trees.

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Map created using Genmap

If you are non-British, there will be different considerations of course. Even for those whose ancestry is British, migration patterns cannot be ignored. For example, many who have Northern Irish ancestry in 1800 will find that these families came originally from Scotland or England. We may not know that because we are unable to trace our lines back that far but that may be what the DNA will reflect.

This is not all of course. We all assume that our documentary tree is genetically correct in every particular. It won’t be. Somewhere along one line or another, our solidly Yorkshire great-grandad won’t actually be the father of grandma. Great-grandma will have had a liaison with someone from Kent, or Germany, or Kazakhstan and we will never know, unless DNA matches give us a clue. Our only measure of accuracy is the tree we have lovingly researched and it is gratifying when our ethnicity estimate suggests we have got it right but it is not the company’s fault if we have got it wrong.

On the subject of updates, for my kits, the final Living DNA update is in and I should comment on that, as I have on the others. This person has ancestry from a very restricted geographical area (I promised not to use the word in-bred). So much so, that his sample formed part of the base data to identify Devon DNA. Going back to the ‘magic’ 1770-1800 mark (3 x great grandparents), 88% of his ancestry comes from within fifteen miles of his own birthplace and covers just two adjacent registration districts in north-west Devon. The other 12% is from Cornwall.

The original results were more diverse than this implies:

Devon 48.6%

Cornwall 24.5%

South-east England 13.8%

South England 7%

Cumbria 2.4%

Ireland 2%

South central England 1.6%

The new results reflect the documentary tree more closely:

Devon 64%

Cornwall 22.5%

South England 4%

Ireland 2.4%

South Central England 2.4%

South Wales Border 1.9%

Cumbria 1.7%

South-east England 1%

Now, anything other than the south-west appears to be just ‘noise’.

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Map from Living DNA

Nothing to do with DNA but I know there are readers who are waiting for hint about my next historical novel. I have already said that it is, like Barefoot on the Cobbles, based on a true story. It is also, again like Barefoot, rooted in rigorous genealogical research. Oh and it does now have a title but I will be revealing that at a later date.

8 comments on “So Your DNA Results are ‘Wrong’

  1. […] to Scotland but there are many reports of increased Scottishness appearing in people’s estimates. See here for my take on ethnicity […]

  2. Ashbee's avatar Ashbee says:

    Like you my tree, gathered over four decades, dominates three or four counties in a cluster. There are a less than 10 individuals who joined the mix from various counties in the south of England. And yet my revised Living DNA test shows the biggest proportion of my regional makeup to be from North East England, North Yorkshire and South Yorkshire with a scattering of other places down south. I don’t know what make f these revised results because they’ve also added Germanic genes (12%). Should I treat these as big clues when trying to fill in my earlier missing ancestors?

    • I think unexpected ancestral areas are clues but no more than that – next time there’s an update we could lose those areas again! Having said that, I am wondering if my unexplained Yorkshire is a missing 4 x great grandmother who is my 4 x great grandmother 3 times over.

      • Ashbee's avatar Ashbee says:

        I totted up the actual percentage of known regional origins and compared my estimates to those from Living DNA and it was sobering. Apart from one region where my knowledge has already doubled LDNAs number, It’s clear that I only have around a quarter of what is possible. And I thought I had a pretty populated tree! Lol!

        One quick question – if I’ve uploaded my test results to other sites for matching should I do it again? I’m assuming it’s only the analysis that has been revised?

      • No need to upload again – your DNA hasn’t changed, they’ve just refined the ethnicity in the light of improved data

  3. John D Reid's avatar John D Reid says:

    Janet: You write “other than the south-west appears to be just ‘noise’.” So “South-east England 13.8%” is just noise? If so is Living DNA performing a service in reporting all those other results with smaller percentages that are “just noise?”

  4. Nancy Frey's avatar Nancy Frey says:

    Looks like I’m the first to comment. I think you nailed it here Janet. If you study the history of the British Isles, you know if you stem from a Brit you are going to have Viking ancestry somewhere, and most like Celt, Saxon and Angle as well. Just looking at your DNA results is not only misleading, but can sometimes be upsetting if you don’t have the background. Thanks for stating it so clearly.

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