A Genealogist’s Nightmare: tracing the Smith Family in London

A few months ago, I was invited to give a talk to  London, Westminster and Middlesex Family History Society. They particularly wanted something with a London flavour. Nothing in my repertoire quite fitted the bill so I suggested, rashly, that I could put together something based on my Smith ancestors of London. These things always seem like a good idea from the safety of several months away. It should be easy. I’d already written the Smith family story. I even had a short power-point about them. I ‘just’ needed to pull together all the detail about the sources I’d used for the genealogy and the context and I’d be away. I set out to do ‘just’ that very thing. Perhaps, thought I, this would be a good opportunity to revisit that branch of my family, as I do periodically, in case anything new could be found. Forget rabbit holes. I descended into a pit roomy enough for a decent-sized elephant. It is one of those scenarios where the brick wall seems paper thin but is nonetheless impenetrable. Surely x must be the father of y but how do I confirm that, especially with a name like Smith in a highly populated area?

A saving grace for my Smith family is that they like marrying ladies from the Seear family. My three times great grandfather John Jeremiah Smith married Charlotte Seear, his son, my great great grandfather William Joseph Smith married his first cousin, Charlotte’s niece, Eliza Seear. Their son, Herbert Havet Smith, my great grandfather, married Eliza’s niece, Catherine Seear, who was simultaneously Herbert’s wife, his first cousin and his second cousin. I do hope that you are following this. You are probably thinking that it accounts for a great deal. It certainly makes DNA research on this branch ‘interesting’. You’d think Seear would be easy to research. I’ll own that it is an improvement on Smith but there a list of variants longer than several arms and once you stray into Hertfordshire/Buckinghamshire/Bedfordshire there are probably more of them than there are Smiths.

You are probably waiting for me to tell you that, as a result of taking another look at the family, there was a eureka moment and I added several generations to my family tree. Sadly, no but there are fewer bricks in the wall. I was looking for an example to use for the talk and decided to input Seear rather than Smith. This led me to a will that I hadn’t looked at before. A will that should crack my Seear brick wall but doesn’t, still, I now have the names of the siblings of my Seear brick wall ancestor and John Jeremiah Smith featured as a beneficiary. I also reread a will for a John Smith, someone I felt should be John Jeremiah’s father (I knew his father was John). I had previously dismissed it as there is no mention of John Jeremiah, or those I had identified as his likely siblings. Paring this will with marriage witnesses in the family, it now looks as if it is indeed the will of my 4x great grandfather and that the children he does mention are his oldest children, who I had not previously noted as potential siblings for John Jeremiah. I even have three teeny tiny DNA matches to descendants of one of these older children. Is this proof? Of course not but this John Smith of the will has moved from ‘probably not my ancestor’ to ‘almost certainly my ancestor.’ Will he ever be inked in as my 4x great grandfather, probably not but I can hope.

Oh and if anyone is reading this who is expecting me to give a talk on the Smiths in a few days’ time, never fear, I climbed out of the elephant pit eventually and there is a talk prepared.

My Smith Ancestors

6 comments on “A Genealogist’s Nightmare: tracing the Smith Family in London

  1. Vanessa Oliver's avatar Vanessa Oliver says:

    Janet, I enjoyed catching up with your LW&MFHS talk this morning on the Smiths in your family. Well done! You must be rather exceptional in having all those Seears coming in at different generation levels. I count myself as fortunate in not having any London Smith ancestors …. or none I have found so far.

  2. Peter's avatar Peter says:

    I also have Smiths in London. Fortunately my 3G grandfather Edward Smith had the foresight to wait for the 1851 Census to be taken before dying a few months later, so I knew he was born in Herne, Kent. Nevertheless it took me a while to prove that it was the right family in the census because his occupation had changed from carpenter to rag merchant, and the children’s names and ages were all muddled up. No wills to help, but fortunately his daughter’s future husband was lodging with the family in 1851, and not only did he have a fairly rare surname, he was a witness at the subsequent marriages of two of his sisters-in-law, including that of my great-great grandmother.

  3. Denise Probert's avatar Denise Probert says:

    Oh dear! I know that feeling. The year before last, at a Scotland meeting, I commented that I thought all merchant sailors had to make wills. It’s not quite true. But then I was asked to present a paragraph on Scottish servicemen’s wills, this morphed into can you do a small presentation? then to a whole meeting PowerPoint presentation! I only could do it because I had two weeks holiday to research – I actually had no knowledge at all on the topic when I started!
    I descend from James Smith of Leigh, Lancashire – an area full of smiths, & Smiths. This sounds quite difficult. But luckily his daughter Mary, chasing the 16th century Bowker Jamaican coffee plantation fortune, paid a genealogist to research her tree in 1905. He did it the hard way, writing to parish churches or looking at registers – and his tree does check out. He said she was 50 years too late for the fortune! (Unethical anyway!)

  4. raywigz's avatar raywigz says:

    I look forward to hearing your talk
    I also have a Smith nightmare but my saving grace was that for three generations they used the first names Azariah and Arabel. Now stuck on William Smith!

  5. Mary Pomfret's avatar Mary Pomfret says:

    My Smith family in London is a challenge also.

    Mary Pomfret

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